eDiscovery is part of OneDrive for Business stand alone plans

I have been looking at the OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan recently to try and understand what it is all about. If you haven’t read my initial blog on this have a look at:

First look at the OneDrive for business stand alone plan

Upon reviewing what OneDrive for Business Stand Alone offered at:

https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-us/business/

I noted the fact that it includes eDiscovery as you can see below.

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Now, the eDiscovery features is actually a part of SharePoint Online Plan 2 as you can see below:

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The conclusion that I came to in my initial blog post on OneDrive for Business Stand Alone was that it was that it had the equivalent feature set of SharePoint Online Plan 1. Clearly, with the ability to have eDiscovery (which is an advanced SharePoint Online feature) that assumption is no longer correct it would seem.

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So to test out the eDiscovery feature I logged into the OneDrive for Business Stand Alone Plan and went to the SharePoint admin center and created a new site collection.

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When you create a new site collection you can select which template you wish that site based on. As you can see from the above screen shot, one of the options under the Enterprise tab is eDiscovery Center.

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Once you have created the site and it has been provisioned you will see it appear in the list of site as shown above.

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You can of course navigate to that site, as seen above, and start using the eDiscovery functionality of the OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan.

This is interesting to me. Why? Because clearly OneDrive for Business Stand Alone is based on a SharePoint Plan 1 (as deduced in the previous blog post) but as you can see now it includes the advanced eDiscovery feature from SharePoint Online Plan 2. So that means what we effectively have here is another SharePoint Online plan here with a different feature set.

Those additional advanced features are great, don’t get me wrong, but they make understanding what each SharePoint Online plan offers far more confusing for people. For example, OneDrive for Business Stand Alone doesn’t include advanced features like form services but does include other advanced features like eDiscovery.

Having eDiscovery as part of OneDrive for Business Stand Alone is a huge bonus and real differentiator with other cloud storage products, however it also means that it is a lot more complicated than competing products. OneDrive for Business Stand Alone is clearly not aimed at end users as are other cloud storage products BUT is does means that people that use and implement OneDrive for Business Stand Alone are going to have to spend some time learning about the product (and specifically SharePoint Online) if they are going to get the most from it.

The great thing about OneDrive for Business Stand Alone is that has much more functionality and power than you expect. However, that could also be its disadvantage if all you are looking to do is save files to the cloud. I personally think the market is moving more to a product like OneDrive for Business Stand Alone for compliance reasons but we are not there yet for most smaller customers who want simplicity over just about everything else.

First look at the OneDrive for business stand alone plan

With the move to OneDrive for Business from SkyDrive Pro Microsoft has also announced the availability of a stand alone OneDrive for Business plan. It is clearly aimed as a ‘Dropbox killer’ so I thought I’d take a look under the covers and see exactly what it is.

I signed up for a trial at:

https://onedrive.live.com/about/en-us/plans/

and for that I received

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The sign up process is just like any other Office 365 plan.

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You complete all the address details, create an admin login and password and then you are live. This trial was for 25 users of OneDrive for Business.

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After creating the admin account you are immediately signed into the Office 365 Administration Portal which is identical to any other plan. However, you will note that the top menu has the items Newsfeed and Sites listed as shown above. These disappear after a short while (obviously some provisioning happening in the background).

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When I checked the subscriptions I could see what I expected, 25 licenses of OneDrive for Business.

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When you actually check the license assigned to the user you see they have rights to Office Online (the old Office Web Apps) and OneDrive for Business (Plan 1).

Now that’s interesting. Firstly you can remove the ability to view document in a browser by removing the Office Online license but even more interestingly what’s this (Plan 1) thing about? My thoughts on this further on.

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Upon returning to the main administration page I saw that Newsfeed and Sites no longer appeared in the menu bar at the top of the page.

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So being logged on as the administrator account I thought I’d next have a look at the SharePoint admin center.

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To do this you select the Admin option from the menu bar across the top and then SharePoint from the menu that appears.

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Doing so takes me to the familiar SharePoint admin center common to both Enterprise and Mid-sized Business plans. What you will also see is that I have three standard SharePoint Team Sites provisioned! Say what? So not only do I get personal a OneDrive for Business for each licenses user but I ALSO get a standard SharePoint Online shared Team Site. More importantly, via this interface I can also create more shared sites it would seem. Interesting.

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The other thing to note here is that I have approximately 25GB of free pooled space I can allocate! So each user gets the standard 25GB for OneDrive for Business as you do with any SharePoint Online plan BUT you also seem to get additional shared space as a bonus.

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With normal SharePoint Online plans as you find details at:

http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/office365-sharepoint-online-enterprise-help/sharepoint-online-software-boundaries-and-limits-HA102694293.aspx

You only get 0.5GB of additional shared storage per licensed user. Here with OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan it seems you get 1GB per licensed user. That explains the additional 25GB of pooled space I am seeing. It also indicates to me that all SharePoint plans will soon change to add 1GB per user to shared storage (I wonder how long that will be? Not long I’ll bet).

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If I now actually click on the OneDrive option from the menu I get a video to watch and I’m told to wait. This is very much like what happens with OneDrive for Business with any standard SharePoint Online plan.

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After a few more moments I am deposited in the familiar OneDrive for Business web interface (like the old SkyDrive Pro in many ways). So this user now has 25GB of personal storage they can use to sync their files.

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With the personal space set up I navigate to the shared Team Site and sure enough it comes up like any standard SharePoint Online shared Team Site as you can see above.

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My next question is, ‘That’s great, but exactly which SharePoint Online plan is it? 1 or 2?’. To find out I edit the home page and look at the web parts available in the Business Data section shown above.

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If I now look at the same location but on an E3 tenant (i.e. that includes SharePoint Online Plan 2), you’ll see there are lots more web parts available in the same area including those for Excel Web Access and Visio Web Access, both exclusive features of SharePoint Online Plan 2.

So, my conclusion is that OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan is basically like (if not identical) to SharePoint Online Plan 1. Given that it also includes Office Online the plan that it is probably more identical to is Office Web Apps Plan 1.

Here’s where my thinking on what the license saying OneDrive for Business (Plan 1) Stand Alone is all about as I pointed out earlier. My guess would be that we are going to see a OneDrive for Business (Plan 2) Stand Alone that will perhaps include more storage and SharePoint Online Plan 2 as the default Team Site. Only speculation on my part, but it seems logical to me.

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Now I do a double check on OneDrive for Business Stand Alone Plan including SharePoint Online Plan 1 by looking at the web parts in the Forms section.

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In the same area on my E3 plan (that includes SharePoint Online Plan 2) I see the InfoPath Form Web Part as shown above. So, I’m now pretty confident that OneDrive for Business Stand Alone includes the full Office Web Apps Online Plan 1 in its offering. Bonus!

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With other SharePoint Online plans you have a menu item called Sites at the top. When you select that you get a list of promoted sites and what you see is like that shown above from an E3 tenant.

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Even though the Sites menu option is not displayed in the OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan I manually entered in the appropriate URL but was greeted with a 403 Forbidden as you see above. So there is one difference, the Sites URL doesn’t work!

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I then attempted to create a public website in the OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan and it seemed to allow me. However, I couldn’t select a Web Site Address. It seems like that might be blocked but I’ll need to have a fiddle to see whether that is really the case or me just not doing something. But, it certainly seems possible.

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There is a lot more to this OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan than meets the eye and I’ll need to investigate further and report back. However, to round off I took a look at what happens when you want to actually convert the plan to a paid subscription. I had created 2 users and when I wanted to convert I was asked to pay for these two users as well as any additional space. Total cost would have been $5.00 ( 2 x $2.50 ) per month, on special ($10 normally). Pretty good value for what you are getting from what I see.

Summary

So it seems to me that OneDrive for Business Stand Alone on first glance:

– is almost identical to Office Web Apps Plan 1 that includes SharePoint Online Plan 1 and Office Online (the new Office Web Apps).

– provides each licensed user with a default of 25GB of personal storage in their own OneDrive for Business as with any other SharePoint Online plan

– can have additional pooled storage added that can be allocated to any existing users personal OneDrive for Business to take any personal OneDrive for Business up to a current maximum of 1024GB. Again, just like any existing SharePoint Online Plan.

– includes shared Team Sites accessible via the standard SharePoint admin center just like all E and M plans.

– seems to include an additional 1GB per licensed user of pooled storage that can be allocated to either the shared Team Site or an individual users OneDrive for Buiness. Other SharePoint Online plans currently only provide 0.5GB per licensed user (but I get the feeling that will change).

– seems that there maybe additional stand alone plans coming that include more storage and the features of SharePoint Online Plan 2 (i.e. Visio, Excel, Access services, etc).

For the cost, you get a lot of the features of SharePoint Online which is great. However, that still makes it a little more difficult for people to use when compared to other file syncing options like DropBox. However, if you want enterprise functionality and collaboration OneDrive for Business stand alone stands out.

I’ll be doing further deep dives into this OneDrive for Business Stand Alone plan very soon so stay tuned.

OneDrive for Business

There is still a lot of confusion around OneDrive and OneDrive for Business. However, here is a nice video that explains much of the differences and capabilities.

It is perhaps a little long and gets a bit bogged down in some of the details but still very worthwhile if you want to better understand the differences in the OneDrive product.

Microsoft have also announced the availability of the stand alone OneDrive for Business plan:

OneDrive for Business now available as a stand alone service

It seems squarely aimed at competing with DropBox. Here is a comparison of the features available for OneDrive:

OneDrive Plans

And don’t forget that the OneDrive app is available on a number of different platforms, allowing you quick access (and in some cases local syncing ability) to your OneDrive files. You can download the clients apps from:

Download OneDrive

There is still a lot of confusion out there when it comes to OneDrive and OneDrive for Business but once you appreciate they are two completely different services then you can better appreciate the roles they can play. I’m sure I’ll be post a lot more about OneDrive and even updating my SkyDrivePro book to OneDrive but with things still changing so rapidly it doesn’t make sense just yet. Best to sit back and watch all the latest developments as they happen.

Going to the Cloud with OneDrive

Here’s my presentation from todays MVP ComCamp at Microsoft in Sydney. The resources links are:

SharePoint Online blocked file types – http://office.microsoft.com/en-au/office365-sharepoint-online-small-business-help/types-of-files-that-cannot-be-added-to-a-list-or-library-HA101907868.aspx#_Toc355959797

Smart files in Windows 8.1 – http://blog.onedrive.com/have-all-your-skydrive-files-with-you-without-using-all-your-storage-or-bandwidth/

SkyDrive Pro increases storage and ease of sharing – http://blogs.office.com/2013/08/27/skydrive-pro-increases-storage-and-ease-of-sharing/

Solve Problems you are having with OneDrive for Business sync app – http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/office365-sharepoint-online-enterprise-help/solve-problems-youre-having-with-the-onedrive-for-business-sync-app-HA104047973.aspx

OneDrive for business now available

Microsoft has just announced the availability of OneDrive for Business which is a replacement for the SkyDrive Pro client.

OneDrive for Business for Windows 8 and Windows RT
OneDrive for Business Desktop App for Windows
OneDrive for Business for iOS
Also interestingly it was announced in the OneDrive blog that:
Starting April 1, 2014, OneDrive for Business with Office Online will be available also as a standalone service.
It is worth reading the OneDrive blog to also get an idea of what is coming down the track. Things like more storage and security for OneDrive are very exciting.
So, I’m off to update all my apps and learn about the new benefits of OneDrive for Business.

It pays to be enthusiastic!

Since I put my name down to be kept up to date with OneDrive developments I received notification today that it has launched and is rolling out as we speak!

You can read the blog post here:
OneDrive now available worldwide
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But I also found out that gave me a 20GB storage bonus for 12 months just for being ‘enthusiastic’!
I can’t wait for my existing SkyDrive apps to start updating to OneDrive. My question is when is OneDrive for business going to hit my Office 365. I’ll just have to stay ‘enthusiastic’ and find out!

SkyDrive is now Onedrive

We all knew that SkyDrive was going to be renamed but until now we weren’t sure what that name would be. Well now we know – it will be called OneDrive!
If you want the official announcement here it is:
http://blog.onedrive.com/onedrive-for-everything-your-life/
and you can sign up for a preview at:
https://preview.onedrive.com/
Interestingly for existing users:
For current users of either SkyDrive or SkyDrive Pro, you’re all set. The service will continue to operate as you expect and all of your content will be available on OneDrive and OneDrive for Business respectively as the new name is rolled out across the portfolio.
So SkyDrive Pro becomes OneDrive for Business which I think will reduce confusion in the market place about the product and which market it serves.
So, now we just have to wait and see what other changes get rolled into this updated product.